User talk:Erhannis

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Welcome to the wiki! The dates in the info box should be written DD MMM YYYY, otherwise it looks great.

--LLin 11:00, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Cool, thanks! (Is this how one comments?)

Hmm, not quite. Did you enter that formatting by hand, or is there a dialog-thing you can type in? Whatever.

Indents are handled by a colon ":" at the start of the line. Remember to use the "sign your name" bit to add the name and timestamp.

--LLin 12:08, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Oh, ok. Thanks!

--Erhannis 15:24, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Should I post additional questions here, rather than email you? I was wondering how I should handle a 2 disk set; would there be two separate tracklists? Thanks!

--Erhannis 15:31, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

I tried it the most logical way that came to mind. If something should be done differently, just post here or email me or something. By the way, the points I had in mind were how I should designate the properties of the different CDs, like length and number of tracks; whether I should label the two tracklists; what to do (if anything) about the fact that there is no individual track times listed (maybe get rid of the time column?); and whether or not to keep the notes broken into two lines like it is on the original page. Thanks!

--Erhannis 15:54, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

More notes; the karaoke version has no listed release date (I'll leave it blank for now), as well as no track listing or play time (I'll assume they're the same as the vocal soundtrack). Also, any idea why, if I leave the release date blank, it still shows up in the box, while the other blank fields disappear? Thanks!

--Erhannis 16:08, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

The release date and catalog # are "required" fields that are always displayed by the template. This behavior is changeable but I figured only a few CDs are lacking those details and some searching on google should pull up the missing details

--LLin 08:52, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, several more questions. I noticed that in the Vocal Album, between the disk info and the tracklist, it says "Image songs by Azumi Inoue and others." Does this affect the "Composer" field, or is there somewhere that that should be written? The same thing with the disk of two singles "sung by Azumi Inoue." Also, how would I handle that disk, overall? Should I use the corresponding track info from previous disks? Also, one of the release dates is missing, as well as the play time. Finally, the last disk on the page is just a mess of questions, such as: How do I title it (do I prefix "Kiki's Delivery Service"?)? There's no publisher, play time, or catalog number. This disk would probably have "Sydney Forest" as the composer, right? Would I also put her as the performer? Do I leave out the "origin" column? I had one other minor question: tracks 2 and 3 of the Vocal Album have the same length listed. Any idea whether that's just coincidence? Other than that, if you think they look alright, should I start copying these to their own pages? Thanks!

--Erhannis 16:32, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

For CDs with extremely minimal details adding the {{Stub}} template (enter as shown with the double curly brackets) helps indicate entries that need more info.

--LLin 17:22, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Just a possible solution that comes to mind; for the missing play times, I could add up the track lengths (assuming those are given). I'll leave it blank for now.

--Erhannis 16:43, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

It occurs to me that I've been putting the title into the "name" field, when that's not what each are really called. For example, I title a mini-page "Kiki's Delivery Service (Image Album)" so that it's consistent with the other pages, and I use the same text for the "name" field, when the name given is actually "Kiki's Delivery Service Image Album". Should I change these? Thanks!

--Erhannis 16:56, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Go with the non-parentheses for the name field. I prefer using abbreviations in the page title and the full title within the page. For films that have OSTs (original soundtrack) released in multiple countries it's be something like "film name (country OST)

--LLin 17:22, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

I'm attempting to do what I can with the last CD. So, a few questions: are the two notes on the first two songs quite as relevant (assuming I omit the "Origin" column)? Since the title is in English, there wouldn't be an "original title", would there? I deleted the "english translation" part of the tracklist; I hope that's alright. Well, until I hear back from you, I think I've done what I can with what I have, for now. Thanks!

--Erhannis 17:07, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

The changes sound fine, go ahead and create the mini-pages and we can discuss the individual CDs on their talk page.

We've been cross-editing and hopefully this change actually makes it through. <G>

--LLin 17:22, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Cool, thanks! I may be mostly out of time for today, but if I have some left over, I'll get some of that done. I think my schedule tomorrow (and most days) is the same as today's, so I'll finish tomorrow what I don't today, and then move on to the next thing. Thanks!

--Erhannis 17:44, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Um. I'm afraid I mis-managed my time, so I have more stuff to do tomorrow (technically today), so I probably won't be working on the Wiki until later in the day. Sorry about that.

--Erhannis 05:30, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Hi! I just had a little time, so I thought I'd fix a few things. One question, did you have anything specific in mind when you mentioned abbreviations in the page titles? (In other words, is there anything I should abbreviate in the titles I have currently?) Currently, I've titled the sections as I intend to title the page. If there's anything I should change about them (or if they're fine), let me know. I'll try to get to the other things today. Thanks! Bye! --Erhannis 11:15, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

"OST" for "Soundtrack" is the major one, everything else is carried straight through to the page title.

--LLin 18:19, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Everything's taking longer than I expected, but I'll try to spare some time soon. So, for the first one, would that be "Kiki's Delivery Service (OST)" or "Kiki's Delivery Service (OST Music Collection)" (abbreviating "soundtrack" specifically)? (I would expect the former.). So, do the other titles look alright? I just want to make sure before I make pages out of them; I don't know how hard (or if it is possible) to change the name of pages once they have been created. Sorry about my absence. Thanks! Bye! --Erhannis 19:43, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

The former. I'd change "(Vocal Version (Karaoke))" to "(Vocal Version - Karaoke)". Title changes are fairly simple, there's a "move" button that will adjust the title. It does create a redirect which is why it's best to do it right the first time.

--LLin 22:42, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Well, I've gone ahead and made the pages. I hope they're alright. Do I add category tags? How? Also, do you think I should add that "stub" template to any of them (the "Sydney Forest" one in particular)? Thanks! --Erhannis 23:00, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Add the category tags as so:

[[Category:Kiki's Delivery Service|CD]]

[[Category:CD]]

The stub template should be added to any entries with missing details in the infobox. I actually own a copy of the Sydney Forest CD and it's a semi-homemade CD-R.

--LLin 08:48, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

So, just to clarify, it should be put on all CDs that are missing ANY details (aside from the ones that none of them have, of course)? I'll go ahead and do so, for now. Thanks! By the way, any idea why I have to put a blank line between the end of my sentence and the signature, or else it tacks it onto the same line as the last sentence?

--Erhannis 16:55, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

The signature should work on the next line, like this one. Just hit enter to get to another line and insert the signature code

--LLin 21:49, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Ok, I've added the categories and stub tags. Is there anything else to do with these? If not, what's the next thing on the list? Thanks!

--Erhannis 17:11, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Tackle the My Neighbor Totoro CDs.

--LLin 21:49, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Oops! Crud, I accidentally added the Totoro image album picture as "To_image.jpg". Sorry about that. I'll leave it for now, but if there's something I should/can do with it, tell me. Sorry!

--Erhannis 11:25, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

With the Totoro image album, should I just leave the "Singer" column out?

--Erhannis 11:31, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

It can be put in the "notes" section with an explanation section before the tracklist ("notes reflect singer of track", or something similar).

--LLin 11:55, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

With the "Orchestra Stories", is the original name really just "Tonari no Totoro"? I'll be back later today.

--Erhannis 11:40, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

No, I'm sure there's additional words but when I added that CD I didn't know the romaji for the CD subtitle. The page titles use the English translation so "Orchestra Stories" is fine, you could add a question mark in the original title section to note that we don't know it (yet).

--LLin 11:55, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

Should I add the stub template to the drama version because of the absent track times (I've gone ahead and done so)? Thanks!

--Erhannis 19:33, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

Yes

--LLin 12:27, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

Most of the rest seem non-standard, so I have some questions about them. First, what should I do with the "Box"? With the CD Mini Album, should I copy the four mentioned songs into a tracklist, in the order stated? For the karaoke version, should I title the page "My Neighbor Totoro (Song & Karaoke)" (omitting the long secondary title)? Also, should I write out tracks 11-20, or imply them as on the original page? Also, should I put "Notes of the first 10 tracks refer to the singer" before the tracklist? For the French version, should I copy the Japanese tracklist? For the single, should I title the page "My Neighbor Totoro (My Neighbor Totoro / Stroll)"? Also, should I mention somewhere that the songs are sung by Azumi Inoue? I'll try what I think makes sense, where I can. Thanks!

--Erhannis 19:48, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

Box - In the notes section put links to the CDs that are included, no need to duplicate track listings. A bulleted list works, start each title with a "*".

Mini - Ran a search and found [this page http://music.yahoo.co.jp/shop/c/10/15atc170] which lists

1. Sampo
2. Kaze no Toorimichi
3. Maigo
4. Tonari no Totoro

Yay for first level Japanese class!

Karaoke - Omit the long title in the page title, it can be mentioned in the notes. The entire track list should be included and the notes should be added before the track list.

French - Adding a link to the Japan OST will suffice, I suspect the titles were translated into French so the stub marker should also be added.

Single - I'd go with "My Neighbor Totoro (CD Single)" then put the full title in the notes. Looks like the original track list doesn't have notes/time so include them and put the singer in the notes.

--LLin 12:27, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

For the CD Mini Album, I guessed that "opening song" referred to the version of "Sampo" performed by Azumi Inoue, whereas "Sampo" referred to the version that also includes the Children's Choir. Was that correct? For "Kaze no Toorimichi", however, do you know if it would be the instrumental version or the choir version? For now, I'll use the choir version, since the other three songs had singing in them. Thanks!

--Erhannis 20:03, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

Unknown, the page I noted above only lists the titles.

--LLin 12:27, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

Should I add the line break in the titles of the Song & Karaoke version? Thanks!

--Erhannis 20:10, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

Looks ok on my screen in it's current incarnation.

--LLin 12:27, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

For the French version, how should I title the page? I'll wait to add this one until I hear back from you, since most everything about it is still in question. Thanks!

--Erhannis 20:42, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

My Neighbor Totoro (French OST)

--LLin 12:27, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

By the way, on the Single, is the reissue catalog # supposed to be TKCA, rather than TKDA? Also, should I mention something about "sung by Azumi Inoue"? Thanks!

--Erhannis 20:52, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

No, TKDA is correct. Most catalog # questions can be answered by plugging the number into CDJapan or Amazon.jp

--LLin 12:27, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

Thanks! I've made some of the changes, but I have to leave for a while, and I had some questions to ask. When you say 'put the full title in the notes'...(I'm not sure how to phrase this)...mightn't that be a little redundant with the title being in the infobox to the right? Maybe that's fine. Also, in the notes of the Box, should I mention the wreath and booklet? In the Karaoke version, to what, specifically, were you referring when you said "the notes should be added before the track list"? (I guessed that you meant the fact that the notes of 1-10 are the singer and that 11-20 are the karaoke versions of 1-10). Also, with the Single, when you said "put the singer in the notes", did you mean the pre-tracklist notes, or the in-tracklist notes? I think that's all the questions I have, for now. I should be back later today, or if not, tomorrow. Thanks!

--Erhannis 13:14, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

Full title - You're right, if the full title is in the infobox then it's not necessary in the notes.

Box - Yes, mention the extras

Karaoke - Was referring to the full title, but as mentioned earlier since it'll fit in the infobox no further notes are needed.

Singer - in-tracklist notes

--LLin 14:25, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

Well, I've made just about all the changes (I think; I got a little lost in all the questions and answers, but I think I got everything. If not, tell me.). However, as I was copying track times to the Single, I noticed that there are no track times listed for the karaoke versions. I was about to re-use the normal-version track times, when I noticed that the run time of the CD is only supposed to be 7:02, and the normal versions of first two tracks alone would go over that. Any ideas? Other than that, I think that's everything for these, unless there's something you notice. If not, should I start transferring these to their new pages? Thanks! Bye!

--Erhannis 22:48, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

The track times will have to be left blank for now. The CDs can be transferred to their regular homes.

--LLin 00:30, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

I've moved most of the pages over, but I encountered a problem with the karaoke version. The title of the page was "My Neighbor Totoro (Song & Karaoke)", and while everything was fine up through copying things into the new page box, when I saved it, it gave me an empty page titled "My Neighbor Totoro (Song". For some reason, though I could edit the properly titled page, I couldn't read it (though I found that if you replaced "wiki/" with "w/index.php?title=" in the address that it worked fine. I don't know why, exactly, this is.). I've left that CD page also on my user page, in case its needed. Any suggestions? Also, I probably won't have much time for a day or two, so you might not see much of me for a while. I'll come back when I get the chance. If there's something else I should start working on when I have some time, you could post it, if you wanted. Anyway, thanks! Bye!

--Erhannis 20:19, 14 May 2007 (CDT)

Ampersands can make for interesting errors, replacing it with "and" is fine. Next up is the Princess Mononoke CD list.

--LLin 11:37, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry I've been gone for so long! I'm also afraid I'm still not in the clear. I'll do what I can. So for the Karaoke page, should I make a new page, or try to move the old? When I click the move tab, the page it asks me if I want to move is cut off at the ampersand; so it might move the blank version if I do it that way. I'll work on the Mononoke CDs for a while, though probably not more than an hour or so. Sorry. Thanks!

--Erhannis 20:48, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

Create a new page with "and" in the title, the old page can be marked as deleted.

--LLin 08:52, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

A few questions: what should I title the US Soundtrack, as opposed to the Japanese Soundtrack? (I've used "Princess Mononoke (US OST)" for now). Also, I noticed that the CDs page is different from the others; thought I'd double check just to make sure that was alright (though it may cause minor formatting questions, etc.). For CDs that mention a singer, with a track in the list mentioning "vocal", should I put "(Sung by Whoever Whoeverson)" in the notes? Though I haven't gotten to these yet, what should I do with the ones that have more than one image? Also, how should I title the Japanese OST? Thanks! I may be on and off for a while.

--Erhannis 22:31, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

The US title is fine. Using the notes for singers is also fine. Additional images can be linked in the area after the infobox, use a bulleted list and describe the linked image.

"*[[Media:‎|Back cover scan]]" ends up as:

Back cover scan

--LLin 08:52, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Oh, by the way, would the tags for the Totoro CDs be

[[Category:My Neighbor Totoro|CD]]

[[Category:CD]]

Thanks!

--Erhannis 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Yes